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Never Fade Price: Focus on Positioning

Jun 25, 2025
Vorpp Capital Insights Episode 89

One of the most common mistakes traders make, especially those who are just starting out, is trying to fade price. The logic may seem sound. A stock has gone up significantly, so it must be due for a correction. Or a stock has dropped dramatically, so surely it is cheap now and ready to rebound. This thinking appears reasonable, but it leads to poor decisions. Fading price is not a strategy. It is a mistake that often leads to heavy losses.

Instead of focusing on how far price has moved, traders should concentrate on who is already in the trade. The better approach is to analyze positioning. When a market becomes too one sided, that is when a reversal becomes more likely. Not because price is too high or too low, but because there are no more buyers or sellers left to continue the move. Understanding this dynamic is key to gaining an edge in the market.


What It Means to Fade Price

Fading price means betting against a strong trend simply because the asset has moved a lot in one direction. It is the idea that something that has gone up must come down, or something that has gone down must eventually bounce. This mindset ignores the forces behind market movements. It treats price as a signal by itself rather than a reflection of positioning, sentiment, and capital flow.

The reality is that markets do not have memory. They do not care what an asset was worth yesterday or last year. There is no such thing as too high or too low. A stock can continue to rise far beyond what anyone thinks is reasonable, just as it can keep falling despite appearing cheap. The market rewards structure, discipline, and timing, not assumptions based on price history.


Price Is Not a Reason to Trade

Price on its own is not a reason to take a trade. It is a result of everything the market knows. All public information, forecasts, expectations, and sentiment are reflected in the current price. This is why buying something just because it is down a lot, or selling something simply because it went up, is not a strategy. It is guessing.

When a stock drops ninety percent, there is likely a fundamental reason behind it. That reason may still be valid. A lower price does not mean the risk has disappeared. In fact, many stocks that fall ninety percent often fall another ninety percent from their new level. Similarly, a stock that has doubled can still double again if the trend remains strong and there are still new buyers entering.


The Power of Positioning

Positioning is what moves markets. Knowing who owns what, how much exposure there is, and where the crowd is leaning gives traders real insight into potential turning points. If everyone is already long, it becomes hard for the market to keep moving up, because there are no fresh buyers left. If everyone is already short, it becomes difficult for the market to fall further, because the selling pressure has been exhausted.

Traders need to understand where positioning is stretched. Tools such as sentiment indicators, options data, and large trader positioning reports can help. When sentiment becomes extreme and everyone agrees on the direction, that is often when the market changes direction. It is not because price looks overdone. It is because the trade has become too crowded and fragile.


How to Read Market Positioning

While price shows you where the market has been, positioning helps you anticipate where it might go next. There are multiple tools and data sources to measure this:

  • Commitment of Traders Report (COT): Published weekly by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, the COT report shows how commercial hedgers, large speculators, and small traders are positioned in futures markets. When large speculators hold extreme long or short positions, it often signals that the trend is overextended and may reverse. Conversely, commercial hedgers are usually on the opposite side and are considered smart money.
  • Options Market Data: Options activity can reveal speculative extremes. Indicators such as put to call ratios, open interest build ups, and changes in implied volatility are valuable signals. A high put to call ratio may signal excessive bearishness, while excessive call buying often indicates frothy optimism. Watching for skew in implied volatility can also show whether traders are aggressively hedging in one direction.
  • ETF and Fund Flows: Large inflows into sector ETFs or mutual funds can signal overexposure. When you see a rush of capital entering one sector, it may mean that the trade is crowded. Tools like ETF.com or Morningstar help track inflows and fund allocations. If too many people are chasing the same idea, there is little fuel left to push it higher.
  • Retail Sentiment and Crowd Positioning: Sentiment surveys such as the AAII Sentiment Survey or tools like the CNN Fear and Greed Index are useful to gauge how optimistic or pessimistic the crowd is. Forex and CFD brokers like IG and OANDA also offer live positioning data that shows what percentage of retail clients are long or short on major assets. High retail exposure in one direction is often a contrarian signal.
  • Institutional Filings: Quarterly 13F filings by hedge funds reveal their equity holdings. Although delayed, they help identify larger positioning trends. Consistent buying or selling by large institutions over several quarters can show confidence or concern around particular sectors or themes.
  • Volume and Price Action: Even without data, the behavior of price and volume can offer strong clues. If a market breaks out but volume is weak, the move might lack conviction. If a large rally is followed by a quick and violent selloff, it could indicate that positioning was too crowded. Patterns of exhaustion, acceleration, or sharp reversals often signal changes in positioning under the surface.


Real Examples of Positioning versus Price

Consider a tech stock that has doubled in a few weeks. A trader might think it is too high and short it. However, data shows that hedge funds are underweight, sentiment remains cautious, and there is no speculative excess. In this case, there may still be room to run. The price is extended, but the positioning is not.

Now look at a commodity that has fallen seventy percent. It seems like a value play, but sentiment is still positive, and investors continue to hold on hoping for a rebound. That is not capitulation. It is stubbornness. Until the positioning is cleared, the bottom is likely not in.

The goal is to align your trades with the structural flow of capital, not just the distance price has traveled.


Markets Are Forward Looking

Markets reflect not the present, but the future. Every price you see today already includes the market's expectation of tomorrow. This is why bad news does not always lead to falling prices and good news does not always lead to gains. The market moves based on surprises, not headlines.

Fading price assumes that the market is wrong just because it has moved far. Respecting positioning recognizes that the market can stay wrong longer than you can stay solvent, unless you understand where the risks are building up.


Final Thoughts

Successful trading is not about identifying what looks cheap or expensive. It is about understanding how crowded a trade is, what has been priced in, and whether there are still buyers or sellers left to support the next leg. Price is what you see. Positioning is what gives you the real edge.

Never fade price just because it moved far. Study the crowd. Monitor the flow. And when you see extreme positioning with little room for further pressure, that is when you fade the trade.

Do not consider this article as financial advice. We only showcase our own opinion. Always do your own due diligence before investing in any alternative investment opportunities.

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